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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9603
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Posted - 2014.05.07 20:18:00 -
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Artyom Estemaire wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:
As such, three individuals have been permanently removed from the EVE Community. A total of 7 EVE Online accounts, and 1 DUST 514 account belonging to them have been permanently banned. Another individual who was indirectly involved in the vandalism has received a 6 month ban from EVE Online on their sole registered account.
I feel like I'm missing something, did they catch the people who did this? Were there several persons involved? Did you actually read the part you quoted? "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9603
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Posted - 2014.05.07 20:47:00 -
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hnfnfhfthfth fthftjhnjfjf wrote: This doesn't really explain the part where the perp's own alliance mates turned them in. That being the case it doesn't make much sense for us to then complain about them being banned too long, or for that matter try to frame Gevlon in the first place.
The only objections to the permaban are on the basis that leniency should have been applied for any perp that turned themselves/the others in. Carrot and stick more easily gets a mule to move than just the stick. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9604
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:29:00 -
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I read that this wasn't the only incident where the monument was damaged, just the only one where the perp decided to publicly brag about doing it. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9604
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:42:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Andski wrote:how many people does it take to scratch an aluminum plate
four, apparently Must have been highsec carebears :P Scratching out names on a monument is like the epitome of pubbiedom. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9604
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Posted - 2014.05.07 23:49:00 -
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hnfnfhfthfth fthftjhnjfjf wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:hnfnfhfthfth fthftjhnjfjf wrote: This doesn't really explain the part where the perp's own alliance mates turned them in. That being the case it doesn't make much sense for us to then complain about them being banned too long, or for that matter try to frame Gevlon in the first place. The only objections to the permaban are on the basis that leniency should have been applied for any perp that turned themselves/the others in. Carrot and stick more easily gets a mule to move than just the stick. Of course they had to turn them in, it's gone too far (police, investigation etc) even for "meta"gaming and "le epik troling jok im drunk XDDDDDD". This is what we get when people casually steal flags and put stickers on that same monument with no consequences. Those actions actually have no real consequences for anyone (I'm not fully versed on what the flag thing was, but from what I read it was just a harmless game some people got too angry over... kind of like this one). It doesn't make sense to make consequences for an action that hurts nobody. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9604
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Posted - 2014.05.07 23:56:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:It's with a heavy heart that I have to speak... CCP Falcon wrote:i'm still sick to my stomach... Falcon, this sort of language is pretty dramatic to describe a video game monument getting keyed. Vandalizing your monument is certainly not something I would have done, but I can't be the only one to notice some hypocrisy or at least a little irony in this situation. Setting aside the fact that CCP felt the need to build a monument to its players reminiscent of a war memorial, it seems odd that there would be this kind of outrage over someone taking a coin to your monument when you encourage all your players to "Be The Villain". Why do people keep posting this tripe? It seems to me the ones pointing fingers are having an even harder time understanding the difference between real life and a game than any in-game villain. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9604
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Posted - 2014.05.08 01:54:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:It's with a heavy heart that I have to speak... CCP Falcon wrote:i'm still sick to my stomach... Falcon, this sort of language is pretty dramatic to describe a video game monument getting keyed. Vandalizing your monument is certainly not something I would have done, but I can't be the only one to notice some hypocrisy or at least a little irony in this situation. Setting aside the fact that CCP felt the need to build a monument to its players reminiscent of a war memorial, it seems odd that there would be this kind of outrage over someone taking a coin to your monument when you encourage all your players to "Be The Villain". Why do people keep posting this tripe? It seems to me the ones pointing fingers are having an even harder time understanding the difference between real life and a game than any in-game villain. MAYBE some of them have some heavy responsibilities or work in an environment where there's a chance of injury or death. They log on and see nerds herfing and blerfing and it just doesn't resonate with them. Whatever, don't try to deny them their views, remember this is a lame and petty thing. I never said it wasn't. My point is that this isn't a result of the game's culture, since past Fanfests have demonstrated that a culture of devious criminality in the game doesn't actually translate into real life. When a lot of people gather in groups, sometimes a few of them do something stupid. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9609
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Posted - 2014.05.08 12:54:00 -
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Warr Akini wrote:As much as those -directly- responsible for the act have rightfully earned the ire of the community, CCP Falcon's behavior and posting indicate a very clear anger - an anger that should have led to him recusing himself from impartial judgment in this situation. Anger doesn't prevent impartiality, and I doubt you'd find anyone at CCP who doesn't feel the same way he does. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9609
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:46:00 -
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Anya Klibor wrote:Because the players care about a symbol of complete and utter narcissism, a symbol that CCP has learned nothing the past few years when it comes to reputation and customer service. All that money you dumped could have been used to keep some of those people you recently let go of employed instead of helping Hilmar get his **** up so everyone would stop laughing at him in the locker room over his ED.
Ask me if I care that I'll be infracted for this post. Go ahead, ask me. Careful not to cut yourself on that edge. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9631
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Posted - 2014.05.08 21:04:00 -
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Warr Akini wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Warr Akini wrote:As much as those -directly- responsible for the act have rightfully earned the ire of the community, CCP Falcon's behavior and posting indicate a very clear anger - an anger that should have led to him recusing himself from impartial judgment in this situation. Anger doesn't prevent impartiality, and I doubt you'd find anyone at CCP who doesn't feel the same way he does. I'm perfectly willing to stipulate to the second half of your sentence - I myself am nothing short of furious that a couple of idiots couldn't be even remotely cool. But I don't think you can in any way argue that a demonstrated emotional attachment to the issue does not constitute at least a basis for bias. A basis, sure. But that doesn't mean we are incapable of removing ourselves from bias. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9633
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Posted - 2014.05.08 22:17:00 -
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If it's a Goon we'll lynch him all the same. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9634
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Posted - 2014.05.08 23:07:00 -
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Tavin Aikisen wrote:Should have gone to the police. Can't believe all they got was a ban... They may well have. CCP has not and will not provide information about legal actions taken against the individuals, merely the actions taken against their accounts. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9634
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Posted - 2014.05.08 23:15:00 -
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You're the only one who thinks so, so it's either not obvious at all and you're a genius for figuring it out, or you're just guessing. We all know which is the case. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9634
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Posted - 2014.05.08 23:26:00 -
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Taking bets on whether the real perps actually got banned or not.
Oh hey, non-rule-breaking posts being removed. This is always fun to watch. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9635
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Posted - 2014.05.08 23:35:00 -
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You'll have to explain then what part of that post (linked images from the other forum) was against the rules. And don't say it was because of discussion of bans, because if that were the case this thread should have been locked upon creation since that's more or less the only purpose of having it. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9639
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Posted - 2014.05.09 03:18:00 -
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I think it's more fun to live with the assumption that all humans are shitheads. That way you're pleasantly surprised every time you go out in daylight without seeing someone get gunned down in the streets. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9639
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Posted - 2014.05.09 03:45:00 -
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The person who doesn't ask questions like that. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9649
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Posted - 2014.05.09 08:22:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:For anyone not aware, someone on the (in)famous internet forums "Something Awful" has stated that they got an e-mail telling them their character has been banned, despite the fact they haven't even logged in for about 6 years.
I guess this could be a total coincidence, as I'm 100% positive that CCP did all the appropriate research and double and triple checked their facts before banning accounts in reaction to a real world event that their community manager has take such a public and personal interest in.
I'm sure if it were to transpire that the wrong account was banned for whatever reason, CCP would be the first people to apologise and publically explain the situation to avoid more rumour mongering.
As the individual involved has already contacted customer support it's bound to be resolved soon and I'm sure they will get told why their account was banned, probably totally unrelated to this entire thing. I'm not really sure there is a great deal more to be said on the subject at the present time? You may not be aware that several people have already said this and their posts got deleted. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9671
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:22:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:CCP Falcon wrote: While the community has been justifiably outraged and a number of people have requested that we release the ingame identities of those who carried out the act, we feel that this would be contrary to our privacy policies. As such we will deal with this incident in line with our current policies, and the identities of those responsible will remain confidential.
If only the American news media would get this concept. They understand the concept. They choose to ignore it because the media is a business and money is the deciding factor. They get money from media frenzies. And you get media frenzies from circus trials and national scandals. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9681
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:36:00 -
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That won't happen because in the even of an ban repeal they'll want to be able to return the player's accounts to them as they were. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9743
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Posted - 2014.05.13 00:48:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I see quite a bit of discussion about the act of vandalism involving the scratching out of a name. But I have seen little about the first act of vandalism, the attachment of an alliance logo to the monument. What has CCP done about that? Yes, it was a lesser incident, but it was still a defacement of public property. Damage done = 0. Take your feigned indignation elsewhere. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9754
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Posted - 2014.05.13 21:32:00 -
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Where do you come from that "take your feigned indignation elsewhere" is a personal attack? Did you see big words you didn't understand and figured I was being a big meanie that needed to be censored? "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9887
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Posted - 2014.05.16 20:36:00 -
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Who else even has stickers? We have our own merchandise shop that sells them $0.50 per. I seriously doubt it will ever be a major problem. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9967
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Posted - 2014.05.18 22:30:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:You cater to a neckbeards and children with bullying issues, and you really expected any different behavior other than what you get? It's sad, but i'm actually looking forwards to my accounts expiring, so I don't have an excuse to troll here anymore. The game had great possibilities, but CCP has no clue how to fix all the problems, and clearly can't get competent coders to go to that wasteland called Iceland. Good riddance you're finally leaving. That's a reward in itself. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10168
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Posted - 2014.05.30 21:21:00 -
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Jawa Strong wrote:When harassment and victimization in the EVE Universe is encouraged and rewarded. No, it isn't. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10218
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Posted - 2014.06.01 21:40:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Perhaps I should work harder towards making the Ministry of Alterations a real thing I have some pants that need hemming. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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